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Taking A Pastor’s Fall Personally

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Taking A Pastor's Fall Personally

I’m the kind of guy who takes things very per­son­ally. Some peo­ple are just wired that way. I like to act like things just roll off my back and I really don’t care but I’m pretty sensitive.

For instance, if some­one said to me, “You sounded like you didn’t care about Chris­t­ian issues in your last post about Chick-​Fil-​A.” I’d prob­a­bly get a lit­tle upset. (But no one did because appar­ently since my server changed, my com­ments are dis­abled — haha!) I’d take it a lit­tle per­sonal. One, because that’s not true and I’d assume they read it wrong. And two, because I do care. And under my strained sar­casm I do have a heart.

I’ve got­ten bet­ter since I started blog­ging about not tak­ing things per­son­ally, which is a good thing for all of us to learn.

I men­tion it today for a very seri­ous rea­son. And this is a blog to be read very, very carefully.

Know why? Because I care about every­one on every side of this issue. Fallen pas­tors, their spouses, those they’ve been involved with, their churches, their fam­i­lies, their fel­low pas­tors, their chil­dren — every­one. Know why? Because they are all wor­thy of the love and care of Christ.

When a pas­tor com­mits adul­tery and falls from the min­istry, it hurts many peo­ple. Since my fall, I’ve had time to lis­ten to peo­ple on every side of the fall. Of course, I was the adul­ter­ous pas­tor. I knew what it was like to be self­ish, leave the min­istry and not lis­ten to anyone.

I’ve also had time to lis­ten to the wives of fallen pas­tors. Hear their side of the story. I’ve also heard from the women who com­mit­ted adul­tery with the pas­tor. I’ve talked to church mem­bers and friends of the fallen pas­tor. I’ve seen this issue from all sides and I must say, it has hum­bled me even greater than before.

After a pas­tor com­mits adul­tery, it breaks hearts. It wounds peo­ple. It makes a story for every­one. Some­times it ends up on the front page of the news­pa­per if the church is big enough. It always makes the rounds in gos­sip in the com­mu­nity. Regard­less, it is an act that hurts many peo­ple. It angers many. It leaves many ask­ing, “Why? How? What are the reasons?”

Read more after the jump.….

Let me state this very care­fully. Because some peo­ple may read it very wrong. So I’m going to start with Scrip­ture. After David com­mit­ted adul­tery with Bathsheba, he wrote Psalm 51. He said in verses 3 – 4:

For I know my trans­gres­sions,
 and my sin is ever before me.
 Against you, you only, have I sinned
 and done what is evil in your sight,
 so that you may be jus­ti­fied in your words
 and blame­less in your judg­ment.
(Psalm 51:3 – 4 ESV)

I used to won­der what David meant by, “Against you, you only, have I sinned.” He was talk­ing to God. Surely David knew he had sinned against Bathsheba’s hus­band by killing him. Surely fallen pas­tors know they sin against their own wives when they com­mit adul­tery. So what’s the deal?

Here’s the deal — when any of us sin, the sin debt we owe is owed only to God. We will only face Him for judg­ment. Him alone. At the end of it all, we face no man. We face God Almighty. That’s a lot of judg­ment to answer to.

That’s why it’s so impor­tant for us to walk a right­eous path. To be jus­ti­fied in Christ. To then walk a life of holi­ness. To repent after we have sinned and cry out to God after our transgression.

Now, to the tough part. When a pas­tor sins, he hurts a lot of peo­ple. I’ve heard a lot of pastor’s moth­ers, sis­ters, broth­ers, men­tors, cousins, grand­par­ents, church mem­bers and so on say, “How could he do this to us?”

Let me say this very gen­tly. He didn’t do it to you. It feels like it though, doesn’t it? Your pas­tor didn’t sin directly against you. He did a very self­ish, sin­ful thing, but he did not directly do it to hurt you. Don’t take it per­son­ally. He chose a path of sin, did it con­sciously, with his own flesh in mind, but he did not have you in mind when he did it. He was not try­ing to directly hurt you in the process. You can­not take it to an extreme per­sonal level that you begin to har­bor hor­ri­ble feel­ings toward him.

I can speak to this because I’ve been hurt before by a direct fam­ily mem­ber. He hurt me. He left our fam­ily. Hurt us. And I took it per­son­ally. He even told me he didn’t mean for me to take it per­son­ally. Look­ing back, I know he was right. he didn’t mean to hurt me personally.

The fallen pas­tor, like my fam­ily mem­ber did what they did because they were sin­ners. They were self­ish. Did your fallen pas­tor hurt you? Absolutely. Did it have an effect on your rela­tion­ship with him? Yes, with­out a doubt. Was he under the influ­ence of sin? Yes. But did he do it mali­ciously to harm you? More than likely not.

Now let me ask a ques­tion. When you are self­ish in your life. When you sin. When you do things to please your­self. When you com­mit sins of gos­sip, lying, cov­etous­ness, idol­a­try, steal­ing, lust, pornog­ra­phy, cov­er­ing up other sins — are you nec­es­sar­ily doing it to per­son­ally harm some­one else? A fam­ily mem­ber? Prob­a­bly not.

So what is your role now? If you’re a rel­a­tive, a church mem­ber, a fel­low pas­tor or a friend? Well what does Scrip­ture say? Does Scrip­ture say to take it per­son­ally and hold his sin against him? No. It says in the spirit of Gala­tians 6:1 to restore him. But you may say, “But I don’t have it in me. It hurts too much. I don’t under­stand why he did this.”

In my expe­ri­ence in inter­view­ing fallen pas­tors, you may never under­stand. But you have to keep pray­ing. Keep the door open slightly. Keep let­ting him know you love him. That doesn’t mean con­don­ing his sin, but let him know that you love him for who he is. That doesn’t mean lov­ing him for his sin, but lov­ing him because he’s him. That may be the hard­est thing you’ve ever done, but it may mean more to him that you’ll ever know.

When I fell, I had about three peo­ple reach out to me. None of them were fam­ily. It took fam­ily about three months to talk to me. It took four months for the first church mem­ber to say some­thing. I want you to know some­thing very impor­tant. A pas­tor is just as much a mem­ber of the body of Christ as any­one else. If he falls, we are to go after him. If he shows signs of repen­tance, no mat­ter how small, we are to res­cue him.

Just because he gets a pay­check doesn’t mean we get to fire him because he sins. It doesn’t mean because he com­mits a sin we get to toss him by the side of the road. The body of Christ includes all of the mem­bers. If one mem­ber suf­fers, all suf­fer together; if one mem­ber is hon­ored, all rejoice together. (1 Corinthi­ans 12:26 ESV)

Above it all, try not to take it per­son­ally. Don’t run to Face­book and say, “How could he do this to me?” or to the woman he was with “You are such a *@&$#” as one per­son did to Alli­son. He didn’t do it to you. He has a higher stan­dard to answer to. Instead, go to him. Run to his side. Don’t judge him imme­di­ately, but find out what is going on in his heart. Ask him, “Let’s work through this.” He may not want to talk right away, but he will know you are there.

The body of Christ is made up of many parts. At least one of them might be able to reach out to the fallen pastor.

I’m the kind of guy who takes things very personally. Some people are just wired that way. I like to act like things just roll off my back and I really don’t care but I’m pretty sensitive.

For instance, if someone said to me, “You sounded like you didn’t care about Christian issues in your last post about Chick-Fil-A.” I’d probably get a little upset. (But no one did because apparently since my server changed, my comments are disabled – haha!) I’d take it a little personal. One, because that’s not true and I’d assume they read it wrong. And two, because I do care. And under my strained sarcasm I do have a heart.

I’ve gotten better since I started blogging about not taking things personally, which is a good thing for all of us to learn.

I mention it today for a very serious reason. And this is a blog to be read very, very carefully.

Know why? Because I care about everyone on every side of this issue. Fallen pastors, their spouses, those they’ve been involved with, their churches, their families, their fellow pastors, their children – everyone. Know why? Because they are all worthy of the love and care of Christ.

When a pastor commits adultery and falls from the ministry, it hurts many people. Since my fall, I’ve had time to listen to people on every side of the fall. Of course, I was the adulterous pastor. I knew what it was like to be selfish, leave the ministry and not listen to anyone.

I’ve also had time to listen to the wives of fallen pastors. Hear their side of the story. I’ve also heard from the women who committed adultery with the pastor. I’ve talked to church members and friends of the fallen pastor. I’ve seen this issue from all sides and I must say, it has humbled me even greater than before.

After a pastor commits adultery, it breaks hearts. It wounds people. It makes a story for everyone. Sometimes it ends up on the front page of the newspaper if the church is big enough. It always makes the rounds in gossip in the community. Regardless, it is an act that hurts many people. It angers many. It leaves many asking, “Why? How? What are the reasons?”

Read more after the jump…..

Let me state this very carefully. Because some people may read it very wrong. So I’m going to start with Scripture. After David committed adultery with Bathsheba, he wrote Psalm 51. He said in verses 3-4:

For I know my transgressions,
        and my sin is ever before me.
    Against you, you only, have I sinned
        and done what is evil in your sight,
    so that you may be justified in your words
        and blameless in your judgment.
(Psalm 51:3-4 ESV)

I used to wonder what David meant by, “Against you, you only, have I sinned.” He was talking to God. Surely David knew he had sinned against Bathsheba’s husband by killing him. Surely fallen pastors know they sin against their own wives when they commit adultery. So what’s the deal?

Here’s the deal – when any of us sin, the sin debt we owe is owed only to God. We will only face Him for judgment. Him alone. At the end of it all, we face no man. We face God Almighty. That’s a lot of judgment to answer to.

That’s why it’s so important for us to walk a righteous path. To be justified in Christ. To then walk a life of holiness. To repent after we have sinned and cry out to God after our transgression.

Now, to the tough part. When a pastor sins, he hurts a lot of people. I’ve heard a lot of pastor’s mothers, sisters, brothers, mentors, cousins, grandparents, church members and so on say, “How could he do this to us?”

Let me say this very gently. He didn’t do it to you. It feels like it though, doesn’t it? Your pastor didn’t sin directly against you. He did a very selfish, sinful thing, but he did not directly do it to hurt you. Don’t take it personally. He chose a path of sin, did it consciously, with his own flesh in mind, but he did not have you in mind when he did it. He was not trying to directly hurt you in the process. You cannot take it to an extreme personal level that you begin to harbor horrible feelings toward him.

I can speak to this because I’ve been hurt before by a direct family member. He hurt me. He left our family. Hurt us. And I took it personally. He even told me he didn’t mean for me to take it personally. Looking back, I know he was right. he didn’t mean to hurt me personally.

The fallen pastor, like my family member did what they did because they were sinners. They were selfish. Did your fallen pastor hurt you? Absolutely. Did it have an effect on your relationship with him? Yes, without a doubt. Was he under the influence of sin? Yes. But did he do it maliciously to harm you? More than likely not.

Now let me ask a question. When you are selfish in your life. When you sin. When you do things to please yourself. When you commit sins of gossip, lying, covetousness, idolatry, stealing, lust, pornography, covering up other sins – are you necessarily doing it to personally harm someone else? A family member? Probably not.

So what is your role now? If you’re a relative, a church member, a fellow pastor or a friend? Well what does Scripture say? Does Scripture say to take it personally and hold his sin against him? No. It says in the spirit of Galatians 6:1 to restore him. But you may say, “But I don’t have it in me. It hurts too much. I don’t understand why he did this.”

In my experience in interviewing fallen pastors, you may never understand. But you have to keep praying. Keep the door open slightly. Keep letting him know you love him. That doesn’t mean condoning his sin, but let him know that you love him for who he is. That doesn’t mean loving him for his sin, but loving him because he’s him. That may be the hardest thing you’ve ever done, but it may mean more to him that you’ll ever know.

When I fell, I had about three people reach out to me. None of them were family. It took family about three months to talk to me. It took four months for the first church member to say something. I want you to know something very important. A pastor is just as much a member of the body of Christ as anyone else. If he falls, we are to go after him. If he shows signs of repentance, no matter how small, we are to rescue him.

Just because he gets a paycheck doesn’t mean we get to fire him because he sins. It doesn’t mean because he commits a sin we get to toss him by the side of the road. The body of Christ includes all of the members. If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together. (1 Corinthians 12:26 ESV)

Above it all, try not to take it personally. Don’t run to Facebook and say, “How could he do this to me?” or to the woman he was with “You are such a *@&$#” as one person did to Allison. He didn’t do it to you. He has a higher standard to answer to. Instead, go to him. Run to his side. Don’t judge him immediately, but find out what is going on in his heart. Ask him, “Let’s work through this.” He may not want to talk right away, but he will know you are there.

The body of Christ is made up of many parts. At least one of them might be able to reach out to the fallen pastor.

Comments (3)

I lost everything After 35 yrs Later I became Born Again with Gift of The Holy Ghost I am a disabled Street Preacher And Evanglist Taught and Mentor By Jack Hyles Of First Baptist Church Hammond Ind i Lost My Family I also Serve God I feel tired i have worked with Church Leaders and pastors who teach the Truth and then I find out of Thier Sexual sin its hurts the Worker Jack Schaap whom I love was Pastor in this Mega Church Son in Law of the Late Pastor jack Hyles He Preached and Ran our Bible College Then Was Pastor for 11 years He Was Crucified him in Public And His Family he preached all around the world starting Churches in Asia Afica India Thailand and Help Lead Million to Salvation All information sermons and books haven been removed They Have Forgotten What He did For God Where is the Word forgiveness healing and Restoration although the word says a man of God Must be Beyond reproach sexual scandal is killing the work of The Bride Of Christ They Shouls Ask One another What we Jesus Do Have them repent and help restore them As Jesus Would E mail Daylightconsulting@comcast.net

I preach on Face book Donald Young & Group Servants of EL Shaddai God Of Grace most High Jesus Christ

Good for you Ray. I got to know you right after your fall and though you were still in disguise – I found you to be sincere and fully repentant – offering grace and love to all others who wound up in a position of failure. We are all in a position of failure. None of us is without sin in our lives – hopefully it is confessed, but sometimes we think know one sees it, even God. You are right – we may hurt people but our sin is against God alone and He is the only one who can fully restore and not hold it against us anymore. When people do this we need to rise above and live with the stamp of approval from the only one who cleans us up and sets us on the right path again. I had our senior pastor takes something I did so personally it was confusing for me – even now. I realize he is just human but it hurt me to have such a scathing rebuke from someone who was supposed to be a shepherd. But I have chosen to surround myself with people I trust and those who are not living in harsh criticism because they feel it is their “duty” to correct. Only God can bring us to true conviction and repentance.

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