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The Joel Osteen Hoax: How Much Do We Hate This Guy?

Posted by Ray Carroll | Posted in anger, bitterness, church, criticize, current events, gossip, hate, hatred, hoax, pastors, preachers | Posted on 11-04-2013

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The Joel Osteen Hoax: How Much Do We Hate This Guy?

You’ve prob­a­bly heard it by now. But you may be wrong in what you heard.

Joel Osteen, the pas­tor of Lake­wood Church in Hous­ton, Texas, the man with the smile that never seems to stop, doesn’t osteendrudgebelieve in God any­more. At least that was the “head­line” run­ning across the Inter­net days ago. There was an accom­pa­ny­ing video, screen­shots of sto­ries from The Drudge Report, CNN and other media out­lets. Peo­ple shared this “story” and said thing like, “I knew he was a fake.”

Turns out, Joel Osteen never said any of those things. It was a hoax per­pe­trated by a guy who just wanted Joel to get “more real.” Impres­sively enough, even the one-​stop shop for debunk­ing Inter­net rumors, Snopes​.com has a page address­ing the issue. (Seri­ously, please go there if you read some­thing or are for­warded some­thing. Bill Gates does not really want to send you $5,000 for for­ward­ing a text or Face­book mes­sage. Seri­ously.)

What would cause some­one to do some­thing like this? Why is Osteen so darn polar­iz­ing? Let’s look closer.

For starters, his the­ol­ogy has been tossed around as being weak. Now, I’m not a big Joel Osteen fan. His the­ol­ogy is sus­pect, to say it kindly. Dr. Albert Mohler, the cul­tural com­men­ta­tor of our times, keeps a close eye on Osteen and his doings. He’s writ­ten about him sev­eral times on his blog, here, here, and here for instance. He does a good job keep­ing things the­o­log­i­cal and not per­sonal. I’ve heard a lot of peo­ple say, “I think if he would just say he was a moti­va­tional speaker and not a min­is­ter, I’d be more com­fort­able with him.

Or maybe it’s his smile. It throws a lot of peo­ple off. He’s been called a shys­ter, a liar, a used car sales­man. To his credit, he’s run a very clean min­istry. He has 7 mil­lion peo­ple who fol­low him reg­u­larly and you’ve prob­a­bly met some­one who just loves his preach­ing or books.

osteensmileSo what is it? What is it about him?

I really don’t know. But the hoax that came about did bring a prob­lem to light. A very seri­ous one. One that even hit me.

No, I don’t really care for the man’s the­ol­ogy. I’ve skimmed his work, watched him on tele­vi­sion on occa­sion. I don’t wish ill will upon him and if some­one asks me my opin­ion, they can have it. Per­son­ally? I don’t want any­thing awful to hap­pen to the man. And the hoax that was per­pe­trated upon him was ter­ri­ble. It was. No one should have to endure an attack of lies like that.

But here’s what both­ered me. Thou­sands of Chris­tians read the “hoax.” Their imme­di­ate response, regard­less of how they felt about Osteen was to say, “Of course he did this.” And you know, I sup­pose if they had stopped there, no dam­age would really have been done. But they for­warded it to peo­ple they knew. It was a lie. Did they know? Nope, but they had a respon­si­bil­ity to check it out. I think we all know what that’s called — gossip.

And even if you don’t like the guy, it’s still wrong to do it. Even if you don’t like his books, his preach­ing, his the­ol­ogy, it gosssipgives none of the right to engage in char­ac­ter assas­si­na­tion. Even if you believe he’s not saved or he’s preach­ing the wrong gospel or what­ever con­clu­sion you’ve arrived at, it is wrong to per­pe­trate incor­rect infor­ma­tion about an individual.

But man, how much do we dis­like some peo­ple in our world? We dis­like them so much that we are ready to believe the first bad thing we hear about them, right? That’s how gos­sip gets con­tin­ued. That’s how it con­tin­ues and grows. This was a per­fect exam­ple. And a few months down the line, you’ll still hear some­one say, “I heard Joel Osteen doesn’t believe in God.

Friends, if you’ve been the vic­tim of gos­sip, you know how it feels. You should always check facts before you hit “send.” In fact, if we hear some­thing bad about a friend, church mem­ber, or rel­a­tive, our first instinct ought to be com­pas­sion and love. To reach out and help, not to fur­ther destroy.

On a final note (and reit­er­at­ing that I am not an Osteen apol­o­gist), I’d add that even if you don’t like the guy, he is to be com­mended for how he has han­dled this sit­u­a­tion. He said in a state­ment that he wasn’t angry and he didn’t feel like a vic­tim. Great response and very hum­ble. If I had been in the same sit­u­a­tion, I can’t say I would have been as gracious.

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Ray Car­roll is author of “Fallen Pas­tor: Find­ing Restora­tion in a Fallen World.” He also writes for Pro­voke­tive Mag­a­zine. He is avail­able to speak at your event, church or function.

You’ve probably heard it by now. But you may be wrong in what you heard.

Joel Osteen, the pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas, the man with the smile that never seems to stop, doesn’t osteendrudgebelieve in God anymore. At least that was the “headline” running across the Internet days ago. There was an accompanying video, screenshots of stories from The Drudge Report, CNN and other media outlets. People shared this “story” and said thing like, “I knew he was a fake.”

Turns out, Joel Osteen never said any of those things. It was a hoax perpetrated by a guy who just wanted Joel to get “more real.” Impressively enough, even the one-stop shop for debunking Internet rumors, Snopes.com has a page addressing the issue. (Seriously, please go there if you read something or are forwarded something. Bill Gates does not really want to send you $5,000 for forwarding a text or Facebook message. Seriously.)

What would cause someone to do something like this? Why is Osteen so darn polarizing? Let’s look closer.

For starters, his theology has been tossed around as being weak. Now, I’m not a big Joel Osteen fan. His theology is suspect, to say it kindly. Dr. Albert Mohler, the cultural commentator of our times, keeps a close eye on Osteen and his doings. He’s written about him several times on his blog, here, here, and here for instance. He does a good job keeping things theological and not personal. I’ve heard a lot of people say, “I think if he would just say he was a motivational speaker and not a minister, I’d be more comfortable with him.

Or maybe it’s his smile. It throws a lot of people off. He’s been called a shyster, a liar, a used car salesman. To his credit, he’s run a very clean ministry. He has 7 million people who follow him regularly and you’ve probably met someone who just loves his preaching or books.

osteensmileSo what is it? What is it about him?

I really don’t know. But the hoax that came about did bring a problem to light. A very serious one. One that even hit me.

No, I don’t really care for the man’s theology. I’ve skimmed his work, watched him on television on occasion. I don’t wish ill will upon him and if someone asks me my opinion, they can have it. Personally? I don’t want anything awful to happen to the man. And the hoax that was perpetrated upon him was terrible. It was. No one should have to endure an attack of lies like that.

But here’s what bothered me. Thousands of Christians read the “hoax.” Their immediate response, regardless of how they felt about Osteen was to say, “Of course he did this.” And you know, I suppose if they had stopped there, no damage would really have been done. But they forwarded it to people they knew. It was a lie. Did they know? Nope, but they had a responsibility to check it out. I think we all know what that’s called – gossip.

And even if you don’t like the guy, it’s still wrong to do it. Even if you don’t like his books, his preaching, his theology, it gosssipgives none of the right to engage in character assassination. Even if you believe he’s not saved or he’s preaching the wrong gospel or whatever conclusion you’ve arrived at, it is wrong to perpetrate incorrect information about an individual.

But man, how much do we dislike some people in our world? We dislike them so much that we are ready to believe the first bad thing we hear about them, right? That’s how gossip gets continued. That’s how it continues and grows. This was a perfect example. And a few months down the line, you’ll still hear someone say, “I heard Joel Osteen doesn’t believe in God.

Friends, if you’ve been the victim of gossip, you know how it feels. You should always check facts before you hit “send.” In fact, if we hear something bad about a friend, church member, or relative, our first instinct ought to be compassion and love. To reach out and help, not to further destroy.

On a final note (and reiterating that I am not an Osteen apologist), I’d add that even if you don’t like the guy, he is to be commended for how he has handled this situation. He said in a statement that he wasn’t angry and he didn’t feel like a victim. Great response and very humble. If I had been in the same situation, I can’t say I would have been as gracious.

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Ray Carroll is author of “Fallen Pastor: Finding Restoration in a Fallen World.” He also writes for Provoketive Magazine. He is available to speak at your event, church or function.

Comments (6)

He seems like a very nice and good guy.

But he doesn’t preach God’s law and gospel. He should keep doing what he is doing (he is good at it)…but he shouldn’t call it a “church”. It’s life coaching.

Oh yeah. I agree. Life coaching, motivational speaking, pep talks, whatever.

I’m not an apologist for him and never will be. Point is that regardless of how we feel about anyone, we have always got to check the info before we pass it along.

I humbly disagree. Turning to God and understanding Jesus are daunting for some people. Joel is to Christianity the same management parable of “eating an elephant”. For many, it has to be one, small bite at a time.

Who are we to judge? Honestly? He’s doing God’s work. How many can WE claim to have witnessed or brought to Jesus? It’s incredible how many so-called Christians forget Matthew chapter 7 (and, yes, I had to look that up to remember it — I, too, am a work in progress).

It’s incredible how spiteful and dark our hearts have become in this cynical society. How about a little faith, hope, and love? It’s time to rise above the fray and pray for our hearts to be more understanding and gracious. I challenge myself and each one of you to repond to any attacks on our character, any gossip such as this (good calling it what it is in your thought-provoking article, Mr Fallen) with the same humility that Joel has. God Bless us all

I don’t think a hoax is needed to say that he has left the Christian faith. Osteen’s own teaching bears witness to that.

I found out about it as a hoax before I found out what the hoax was all about. I agree with your sentiment on how we shouldn’t wish this to be true and find delight in spreading it.

Osteen is definitely outside Christian norms.

Glad you picked up on the main point. Those who feel he is a danger should point it out properly.

I watched an interview with the hoaxer earlier. They asked him why he did it. He said, “I want him to tell the truth.” Wow.

If we want the truth spread, we should do just that.

I do not hate him, bit I find his message wishy-washy and his personality boring. I don’t know why he has so many followers.

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